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Hi, Im looking for trigger wheel for my hydraulic dyno for 125cc kart/mx engine. At about engine's 12000rpm pump rotate at 900rpm. To have ever 200 pulses per second (from 2000rpm to 14000rpm), 65 tooths wheel is required. Now, is necessary certain wheel's pitch to consent trigger works properly? Or wheel's pitch isn't important?
Thanks a lot
Eric

 
Posted : 12/02/2018 9:34 pm
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Hi,

For a hydraulic dyno with manual brake control, you do not need 200 pulses per second. Anything above say 10 pulses per second is fine. 

To your question: It is very important that the pitch is constant, otherwise there will be noise on the RPM. I do not recommend making a trigger wheel by hand, you need a CNC machine or just buy one off the shelf. A steel timing belt pulley works well. You may need to remove every other tooth or so.

If you can, I would change the gearing so the pump runs faster, but that's maybe not possible for your kart setup. With higher pump RPM you can go down in pump size (cheaper). 

 
Posted : 12/02/2018 9:53 pm
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I Will make dyno with automatic brake control. Im going to buy a Steel timing belt pulley. I have found one with 68 tooths and 5mm pitch, look The link below, in your opinion this pulley can work with your rpm sensor? 

pitch.  https://m.ebay.it/itm/Pulegge-dentate-per-cinghie-positive-XL-037-Passo-1-5-5-08mm-in-acciaio/142668151387?hash=item2137af3a5b:m:m9bF-Rbm0BLbej_U7InaVZg&varId=441651973554

Thanks aalot

Eric

 
Posted : 12/02/2018 10:01 pm
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Hi,

The trigger wheel in your link looks too to be 5mm wide, does it not? Make sure it follows this spec:  http://yourdyno.com/the-trigger-wheel/

It does not look like it will follow the spec from the photos. But it was very cheap!!

You can go down to as low as 20 pulses per second and still have good auto brake performance. 200 pulses per second is really only needed for inertia dynos, or if you insist on having 100 RPM updates per second. It's a bit overkill! 

 
Posted : 13/02/2018 12:35 am
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Ok, is necessary that wheel Follow the spec in photo. I think it is so difficult find a wheel that Follow these spec. Could you suggest me any website to buy the wheel?

Thanks 

 

 
Posted : 13/02/2018 4:45 pm
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This should work if you grind off every other tooth: 

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/timing-belt-pulleys/0183619/

 

 
Posted : 13/02/2018 10:22 pm
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Sorry, can you explain me wich other tooths are to grind off?

You are very patient and kind

 

 
Posted : 13/02/2018 10:40 pm
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Sure! You just take an angle grinder and remove every other tooth. It can be done by hand, no problem.

 
Posted : 13/02/2018 10:48 pm
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Do you mean to remove the rim circled? Or the thoots of wheel?

Sorry but I can not understand which other thoots i should remove

Thanks 

Eric

 
Posted : 14/02/2018 5:41 am
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Do you mean to remove the rim circled? Or the thoots of wheel?

Sorry but I can not understand which other thoots i should remove

 
Posted : 16/02/2018 9:34 pm
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The issue with many wheels is that the distance between the teeth is too small. To fix this, you remove every other tooth. Then the distance between the teeth will double. You can remove the rim too, but it is probably not necessary.

 
Posted : 16/02/2018 9:45 pm
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Hi jostein, what do you think about this wheel? 28 thoots. 

 
Posted : 07/03/2018 7:19 pm
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For automatic brake. It's only to polished.

 
Posted : 07/03/2018 7:38 pm
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Looks great!

 
Posted : 07/03/2018 10:07 pm
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 The dimensions of theets in photo mustn't be followed with extreme precisione correct? 

 
Posted : 07/03/2018 11:23 pm
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